tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6003330.post3460823350006003120..comments2024-03-20T06:29:27.167-04:00Comments on The Rabbi with a Blog (Rabbi Jason Miller): Israel's Conservative Seminary Accepts Gays and Lesbians on Yom HashoahRabbi Jason Millerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07805550465729805847noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6003330.post-54735870896013301252012-04-26T01:44:15.128-04:002012-04-26T01:44:15.128-04:00Given this decision regarding homosexuals, is the ...Given this decision regarding homosexuals, is the Conservative movement prepared to reinstate polygamy? I am aware people will claim that that is not permissible since it supposedly "exploits women" but that is not a relevant argument. Muslims want polygamy and so do some break-away Mormon sects. If everyone involved in the relationship accepts it, how can the Rabbinate oppose it, using the "kvod habriot" arguments used to approve homosexual arrangements?<br />It is only a matter of time until Muslims in the US and Europe start formally demanding these societies formally accept polygamous marriages. How can Judaism stay behind, especially since Judaism, in principle, accepted polygamy in the past? In some Eastern Communities it was accepted into the 20th century.Y. Ben-Davidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6003330.post-81557246381203497322012-04-21T16:46:59.211-04:002012-04-21T16:46:59.211-04:00This is not a halachick Tshuva, it is simply a lon...This is not a halachick Tshuva, it is simply a long involved ramble of nonsense to bore the reader into believing that they just want to accept anyone who is willing to pay and say that Judaism is open to everyone. You cannot accept this as an excuse for offending HaSehm and claim to follow Halacha. You should just say "We don't care what the Torah or G-d says, we are just going to do whatever we want" - Masorti. I guess that Rabbi Dorf thinks there is nothing wrong with robert, incest, or anything else the Torah prohibits, as long as they sign up for his school. What's next?Yosef Baruchnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6003330.post-9540327389858063322012-04-20T07:43:40.460-04:002012-04-20T07:43:40.460-04:00Y. Ben-David: Here is a link to the teshuva by Rab...Y. Ben-David: Here is a link to the teshuva by Rabbis Nevins, Dorff and Reisner that allowed Conservative rabbis to officiate at same-sex commitment ceremonies and for the Conservative rabbinical and cantorial seminaries to open their doors to gays and lesbians.<br /><br />As Reb Barry Leff explained, <i>al regel achat</i> the essential concept of this opinion is <i>k'vod habriyot</i>.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.rabbinicalassembly.org/sites/default/files/public/halakhah/teshuvot/20052010/dorff_nevins_reisner_dignity.pdf" rel="nofollow">HOMOSEXUALITY, HUMAN DIGNITY & HALAKHAH: A COMBINED RESPONSUM <br />FOR THE COMMITTEE ON JEWISH LAW AND STANDARDS<br /><br />by RABBIS ELLIOT N. DORFF, DANIEL S. NEVINS & AVRAM I. REISNER</a>Rabbi Jason Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07805550465729805847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6003330.post-85868008087223808582012-04-20T07:35:15.520-04:002012-04-20T07:35:15.520-04:00Y. Ben-David -- the halachic rationale is fairly i...Y. Ben-David -- the halachic rationale is fairly involved, but the essential concept is human dignity -- k'vod ha'briot. See <a href="http:http://www.rabbinicalassembly.org/sites/default/files/public/halakhah/teshuvot/20052010/dorff_nevins_reisner_dignity.pdf?phpMyAdmin=G0Is7ZE%2CH7O%2Ct%2CZ1sDHpI8UAVD6" rel="nofollow">CJLS teshuvah</a> for more information. You can also see my blog post on the decision <a href="http://www.neshamah.net/2012/04/gay-and-lesbian-rabbis-in-israel.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>Reb Barryhttp://www.neshamah.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6003330.post-29259214314356048092012-04-20T03:53:54.708-04:002012-04-20T03:53:54.708-04:00Hello, I am new here at your blog.
Since you suppo...Hello, I am new here at your blog.<br />Since you support this new policy, and I, living in Israel, am not familiar with the arguments that have been used to have Conservative Judaism now justify homosexuality, I would appreciate it if you could briefly explain how your movement, which is bound to follow Jewish Law, can do so, seeing how the Torah quite clearly states that it is forbidden, using the word "Toeva" (abomination) to describe such behavior. This word "toeva" is used also in other cases to condemn dishonest business dealings (i.e. dishonest weights and measures) and idol worship. This seems pretty clear to anyone who reads this that the Torah does not leave any way out of this prohibition.<br /><br />Thank you for your time.Y. Ben-Davidnoreply@blogger.com